
Digging Deep into Optometry
Episodes

Apr 13, 2026
Apr 13, 2026
59 min
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https://coopervision.com/our-company/news-center/press-release/coopervision-and-aoa-join-forces-launch-myopia-collective
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Apr 8, 2026
Apr 8, 2026
36 min
"Aaron talks with Professor John Nolan and filmmaker Wayne Chesler about A Vision for Vision, a new documentary exploring the connection between nutrition, vision, and brain health. Their conversation goes beyond science alone, diving into the people, purpose, and passion behind the film. From the marigold fields of Mexico to the future of evidence-based eye care, this episode offers a behind-the-scenes look at a project designed to inspire both doctors and teams. A Vision for Vision will premiere at the Vision Source Exchange in Nashville, TN on May 2.
Watch the Trailer: https://profjohnnolan.com/a-vision-for-vision/
Connect with Prof John Nolan: https://profjohnnolan.com/
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Apr 6, 2026
Apr 6, 2026
55 min
In this engaging interview, Dr. Christopher Wolfe discusses with Dr. David Kading the importance of authenticity, human connection, and innovative practices in optometry. They explore how virtual teams, AI, and practice management can enhance patient care while maintaining genuine relationships.
00:00 Introduction and Equipment Discussion
01:21 Insights from 'The Invisible Team' Book
02:20 The Human Side of Practice Success
05:30 Authenticity and Generational Change
08:20 The Future of Personal Connection in Healthcare
12:20 Utilizing Virtual Teams Effectively
20:16 Improving Practice Operations with Data
33:10 Balancing Technology and Human Touch
44:20 Patients’ Desire for Connection
50:43 Closing Remarks and Contact Information
The Invisible Team by Dr. David Kading - https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0C4XYZ123
Optometric Insights - https://www.optometricinsights.com
Tim Ferriss - The 4-Hour Workweek - https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00QJDZ3I4
Guest links
Website - https://www.optometricinsights.com
Twitter - https://twitter.com/DaveKading
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Apr 1, 2026
Apr 1, 2026
53 min
Aaron Werner welcomes Dr. Ben Thayil for a thoughtful conversation on refraction, identity, leadership, and the evolving role of the modern optometrist. Together they explore whether too much weight is placed on refraction, how doctors can unintentionally tie their identity to one task in the exam lane, and why the real value of care goes far beyond a prescription. From patient problem-solving and practice systems to change management and internal confidence, this episode looks at what truly defines an optometrist and the lasting impact doctors have on patients’ lives.
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Mar 28, 2026
Mar 28, 2026
39 min
In this episode, Dr. Christopher Wolfe discusses the Vision Source D25 program with Mick Kling, exploring its origins, benefits, and how it fosters community and value among independent optometrists. Discover how the program reinvests in practices and strengthens the independent optometry community.
Chapters
00:00 Weather Talk and Introduction
01:11 Unpacking the D25 Program
02:04 The Origin Story of Vision Source
05:10 The Value of Community in Vision Source
09:30 Understanding the D25 Program
11:06 Member Dividends Explained
17:42 The Mechanics of D25 Participation
28:49 Future Opportunities and Closing Thoughts
resources
Vision Source Official Website - https://visionsource.com
Insight Member Platform - https://visionsource.com/insight
Mick Kling on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/mickkling/
Amir Kashnevis on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/amirkashnevis/
guest links
LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/mickkling/
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For our listeners, use the code 'EYECODEMEDIA22' for 10% off at check out for our Premiere Billing & Coding bundle or our EyeCode Billing & Coding course. Sharpen your billing and coding skills today and leave no money on the table! questions@eyecode-education.com
https://coopervision.com/our-company/news-center/press-release/coopervision-and-aoa-join-forces-launch-myopia-collective
Go to MacuHealth.com and use the coupon code PODCAST2024 at checkout for special discounts
Show Sponsors: CooperVision MacuHealth

Mar 25, 2026
Mar 25, 2026
1 hr 54 sec
"Aaron sits down with Dr. Kyle Klute to talk about what it really takes to build a stronger practice. They discuss why being busy is not the same as being effective, how better systems lead to better patient care, and why lasting growth comes from intentional mindset, clear metrics, and step-by-step implementation rather than quick fixes. It is a practical conversation about building pillars like myopia management, dry eye, and glaucoma care in a way that actually works.
Links referenced in the discussion:
Kyle's Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kyledkluteod/
Practice Performance Partners - Comprehensive Optometry Simplified: https://www.eyecodeeducation.com/bundles/comprehensive-optometry-simplified
""Optometry Simplified"" Kyle's biweekly newsletter: https://optometrysimplified.com/"
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Mar 16, 2026
Mar 16, 2026
30 min
In this episode, we take an honest look at one of the habits many of us developed long
before we ever became leaders; the instinct to give advice. For years I believed that
being helpful meant having the answer. But what I’ve learned is that constantly giving
advice may solve a momentary problem while quietly creating long-term dependence.
Coaching, on the other hand, invites people to think, to grow, and to take ownership of
their own solutions. If you’ve ever felt exhausted from being the person everyone comes
to for answers or frustrated that the same problems keep showing up in your practice,
this conversation will challenge the way you lead and offer a different path forward.
If you want the 10 transformational questions that anchor whole-person coaching,
download the Vision of Leadership Whole-Person Coaching Whitepaper. You can get
your copy at: https://www.eyecodeeducation.com/products/digital_downloads/TVoLCoaching

Mar 11, 2026
Mar 11, 2026
19 min
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Mar 9, 2026
Mar 9, 2026
15 min
- https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/docs-land-nearly-400-million-first-year-controversial-2026a10006e8
- https://www.eyecodeeducation.com/courses/appropriate-use-of-g2211-in-optometry
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For our listeners, use the code 'EYECODEMEDIA22' for 10% off at check out for our Premiere Billing & Coding bundle or our EyeCode Billing & Coding course. Sharpen your billing and coding skills today and leave no money on the table! questions@eyecode-education.com
https://coopervision.com/our-company/news-center/press-release/coopervision-and-aoa-join-forces-launch-myopia-collective
Go to MacuHealth.com and use the coupon code PODCAST2024 at checkout for special discounts
Show Sponsors: CooperVision MacuHealth

Mar 2, 2026
Mar 2, 2026
20 min
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For our listeners, use the code 'EYECODEMEDIA22' for 10% off at check out for our Premiere Billing & Coding bundle or our EyeCode Billing & Coding course. Sharpen your billing and coding skills today and leave no money on the table! questions@eyecode-education.com
https://coopervision.com/our-company/news-center/press-release/coopervision-and-aoa-join-forces-launch-myopia-collective
Go to MacuHealth.com and use the coupon code PODCAST2024 at checkout for special discounts
Show Sponsors: CooperVision MacuHealth

Feb 27, 2026
Feb 27, 2026
49 min
Dr. Katie Chu shares her journey from 30 years serving an immigrant community in the San Gabriel Valley to rediscovering purpose after COVID, divorce, and isolation. She breaks down how she “cleared the noise” through therapy tools, healthier friendships, and firmer boundaries—and how one bold decision created a ripple effect into a breakout year of creativity. Katie also unpacks the heart behind Chewie’s Bold Move, the music and lullabies tied to her books, and her big vision for a future “living masterclass” leadership retreat at sea.
Connect with Katie, get the books and hear the music:
https://chuonwhatmatters.com/
Instagram: @katiewchu
LinkedIN: https://www.linkedin.com/in/katiechuod/
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